You late today fur your Eastern Standard time fans XD
There are no such things as time zones; what you call “Eastern Standard” is the One True Time.
But it is still Friday in my neck of the woods ( I just honestly wanted to be the first comment without saying first and all.)
And here I thought we got done with the Time Warp in the last episode.
PS. I am surprised that Cinnamon was not pictured in the full retard comment and 10x points for using that awesome phrase.
I’m kind of surprised Anise went nuts over Nicholas Sparks. Ellie, yeah, sure. But Anise? Were there bearded men in Nicholas Sparks movies? I don’t know; I don’t watch them.
Maybe anise was superimposing the beards in her head??
I took Pumpkin’s remarks about Nicholas Sparks debates to be a side note, and the “them” she was referring to Anise and Ellie going nuts over to mean “terrible movies.”
I think you’re right…that would probably explain Ellie’s VHS collection. A handful of horror flicks and a stack of Mary-Kate and Ashley movies. Horror movies are a mixed bag at best, and Mary-Kate and Ashley, well, nuff said.
I thought the SNL perfume commercial summed them up nicely.
i thought that was juniper note the longer hair in a similar style but i may be wrong it does look blonder like ellie
It’s Ellie. That’s the handy thing about the birthmarks. If you look closely you can see the H & N on those two.
I’m actually going to frowny-face something. Having a sister with high-functioning autism, I’m aware that when the phrase “full retard” was used in Tropic Thunder, it offended an awful lot of people. It’s an extremely negative term that, while there are large movements to get it taken out of legal documents, schools, and other institutions, still gets thrown around without many users really thinking of how it takes an entire group of people and mocks them, with many of them unable to even defend themselves from the term because of their disability.
As a fan, I still love the comic, but I’d be happy not seeing the word used again.
And I’m going to frowny face this comment. This is why the world is too ‘PC’. Mental Retardation used to be a real, medical term. Since people used it negatively, it’s now been associated as a ‘bad word’. Now, Rusche did not say it in the most awful way possible. It was pumpkin, saying it playfully about her siblings. I’ve called my own siblings far worse things in a joking manner.
So is he, is all of us supposed to walk on eggshells because some people find offense where there is none? Where’s the line of what people can and cannot say? Just enjoy the comic and let the poor man write what ever he chooses.
Man, I’ve had to rewrite this thing about eight times now.
First off, having your chief argument be “someone should be allowed to say whatever they want” isn’t a very strong argument for why it’s actually okay to say it.
Second, I highly respect Chris as a comic maker. Between the script-writing, the art, and the clever jokes, it’s one of the few web comics I even bother to read any more, when way back in the day I used to go through about 40 or 50. Third, how is a phrase that has an extremely negative connection to people with disabilities “find offense where there is none?” The term /itself/ is frequently used offensively. I’ve been witness to people with an intellectual disability simply be walking to school or down the street somewhere else and have people lean out of cars and call them “retards.” I’m not comparing it to the worst hate speech in the world, I’m stating that it’s a phrase that bothers me because of an actual personal connection I have to how it’s been used in the past.
Also, it -used- to be a medical term. It’s not any more. It’s now an “intellectual disability” and a person is an “individual with an intellectual disability.” It allows the person to be first and have the disability be second, showing respect for the person being spoken about without it being the label that people hear first. Is it too bad that a word that was originally designed to be -better- than the words it originally replaced is now used by society in a way that is often hurtful to people who actually have a disability? Certainly, but that’s how it is. And before it’s accused of being “too PC,” why would the idea of letting the person be recognized before their label even be bad at all? Why wouldn’t that be preferable?
Think of it this way. When the phrase “full retard” is used, what are you supposed to connect it to? What’s the mental picture that probably appears in many peoples minds when they hear the term and define it? How was the character in Tropic Thunder portrayed as behaving when the phrase was used to describe it? In many peoples eyes, it’s a dehumanizing term that indicates a large group of people are “lesser,” and not in the “has a disability way,” but in a way that dehumanizes the people referred to. See my above example.
Plus, if you just want to say people were acting stupid, a term that hasn’t been used as a medical term in…man, I think several hundred years, then why not just use “stupid” instead?
I’m not going to comment on your family because, well, I have no context of your family. If it’s a phrase that you use…okay?
I’m saying it’s a phrase I don’t like. I’m saying I’d be happy not to see it. I’m not going to stop reading the comic over it, and I’m not ordering “CHRIS YOU MUST STOP USING IT.” It’s his comic. He can use the language he wants to have his characters express the ideas and thoughts he wants them to express. If it doesn’t bother him, I’m not going to sit and pout over it. Taking it to the “everybody must walk on eggshells” and “where’s the line of what we can and cannot say” level takes my expressing an opinion on a term that is now -publicly recognized- as being hurtful and blowing it out to extremes.
And in the end, maybe it is just my opinion on this board. Whatever. I had an opinion, I voiced it, I’m not looking for a huge debate over the history of a word in the English language or what it means in everybody’s eyes.
“Not looking for a huge debate”. And yet you write a short essay. RRIIIIGGGHHHT. You ARE blowing this to extremes, just based on the length of that. Jeeze. Almost TLDR but I did. This is a comment board for crying out loud.
Just as multiple other people said on your comment, free speech, we’re tired of having to watch what we say because someone might get butthurt. And for you saying ‘Id be happy to never see that word again’ IS telling Rusche what he can and cannot say. He commented on your post because he takes what us the readers say to heart. So possibly whether he intends to or it’s subconscious, next comic he might not use a certain word because ‘it might offend someone’. How stifling.
I apologize only in the specific light of your sister. I understand you only want to defend her. But you really are just finding offense where there is none. It isn’t Rusche saying the word, it’s pumpkin, in a playful jab at her own sisters.
No. He isn’t. He is,what seems to me, stating that he’s mostly OK with that phrase in this sense. However, could it also be possible that he had to justify this with himself in the same breath used to signify one of the few exceptions?
I like to view myself as a scientist, philosopher, artist, pretty, cook, theologian, and a various assortment of cornucopia. However, there are times where the humanity conflicts with the animalistic portion of our baser selves. Some people seem to verbalize their self arguments in the public spectrum in order to not only convince themselves but to also list others know their position.
Erik is not baiting a trolling argument, just fostering an academic debate based upon a teaching moment. That is free speech. Now, the alternative freedom is not to listen, because for speech to be properly defined requires both a speaker and a listener and for those roles to be reversed. Anything else is just anathemic trees clapping with one hand while falling in the woods alone.
By the way. Just what is TLDR?
An acronym, meaning “Too Long: Didn’t Read.” It’s also used to denote a summary, as in “TL:DR (Edition): A much shorter version of what I just said.”
This isn’t meta Kat is it?
First regarding your statement at the top : ‘First off, having your chief argument be “someone should be allowed to say whatever they want” isn’t a very strong argument for why it’s actually okay to say it.’ That is correct but a non-sequitur. “Someone should be allowed to say whatever they want” is a very valid argument against someone attempting to stifle someone else, which you weren’t completely trying to do but it did come off mildly in that direction.
Second, your argument is just disliking a particular phrase/word’s place on the euphemism treadmill. The word’s negative because people used it with negative connotations and so people picked a new word/phrase that didn’t, but in time I’m sure “intellectual disability” will have plenty of negative connotations too.
Think of it this way. When the phrase “full retard” is used, what are you supposed to connect it to? What’s the mental picture that probably appears in many peoples minds when they hear the term and define it?
I’ll freely admit: People with disabilities didn’t even enter my mind until I read your comment. Even though it’s an obvious connection in hindsight, I’m not used to make it. Using the word, if at all, instead as a similar word (not synonym though) to stupid. Usually while talking about someone’s behaviour at a certain time or at some occasions.
And with 34, I can’t necessarily call myself one of the young people anymore. At least not in the sense of youth. Though me being (at least I’m rather sure about this) from an at least partially different culture area than you might already make a difference here. As well as English not being my mothertongue.
Think of it this way. When the phrase “full retard” is used, what are you supposed to connect it to? What’s the mental picture that probably appears in many peoples minds when they hear the term and define it?
With me, it’s Robert Downey, jr. in blackface
I never even saw Tropic Thunder but it’s still what I associate that line with.
Whole heartedly agree. Your hurt feelings are exactly that, yours. I will not alter my speech or writing to make room for you. Too many people have forgot what their parents used to tell them; “if you don’t like what someone is saying ignore them. Or leave the room”. These are usually the same types of people who complain about gender specific words, or toys that “reinforce gender roles”. They want to work to be wrapped in metaphorical bubble wrap so no ones feelings or sensibilities will be hurt.
Not to mention that it’s pretty astonishingly self-centered to “never want to hear” a legitimate word again because it’s been used as an insult. You think those stories about people getting mad at the words “peacock,” and “idiopathy” are just jokes? I wish they were. Cultural context is important to language but descriptivism can only go so far before objective meaning gives up and dies.
I’m gonna have to point out that “retard” is the latest in a long string of words to be used as a synonym for “stupid.” As such, most of the words you (Erik) probably use in place of “retard” used to be a word for mental or physical deficiencies, until said word entered such widespread use people came up with a new one.
This word corruption has been going on for hundreds of years. Look up the etymology on “dumb” if you don’t believe me.
OK, alors que faire si je l’ai dit, en retard ?
Actually, it’s offensive to many people _because_ it was an actual medical diagnosis. When someone uses it as an insult (which is how it is used here), the implication is “this behavior reminds me of someone with a developmental disability, which is shameful”. That is why it is hurtful to many people who actually have such disabilities.
Personally, I see its usage in this strip as an “unreliable narrator” situation. Pumpkin is just talking the way a lot of teenagers talk. I don’t see it as an endorsement of the term by Rusche or anything.
Sorry to hear about your sister, Erik, and your comment doesn’t fall on deaf ears.
Hopefully you, or anyone else for that matter, can see it wasn’t written in a derogatory fashion. I debated keeping that line, but I honestly couldn’t think of anything more typical of Pumpkin to say than that. It’s not a term I throw around in the comic often. It’s just a line a kid like Pumpkin would say about her own sisters with little regard to any inferred offensiveness. So don’t misunderstand the context. It’s not me saying “Haha, Pumpkin’s hilarious saying “full retard.” That’s from that movie I never even saw!” It’s having a character talk like a character would.. Right or wrong, irritating or not.
I certainly don’t make light of your, or anyone else’s, circumstances regarding mental illness or dysfunction. I have my own personal pet peeves with certain words or terms thrown around in media I listen too. I completely feel you. I’m also trying to write (semi?) realistic characters and language associated with them. While none of the characters are intended to be outright provocative or rage-inducing, they may annoy at times.
It’s a tricky line to walk to be fair. Sometimes the characters you write tend to be utterly polarizing personality wise. That being said; those characters are what add depth to a story. In the context in this page it feels like Pumpkin being Pumpkin. While the phrase can be jarring and almost ignorant to say…. she’s also a teenager. She’s saying something popular from a movie.I personally don’t have a problem with the phrase myself, but then again I see the word “Retard” used more to describe people hindering the progress of society as a whole… not used as slang to describe people who live with mental deficiencies.
It’s a movie reference in a conversation about movies. I’m okay with it.
Chris, I completely understand. I know it’s a phrase a lot of young people use, and … you know, I really can picture Pumpkin using it without even intending to be offensive or thinking about how other people might find it that way. I didn’t take it at all to be anything directly negative towards anybody with disabilities, and I’ll admit it’s a bit of a knee-jerk reaction when I hear the phrase used in public at all.
Again, I’d be happy to never see the phrase used again /at all/, but if it actually has a purpose in the story and serves the character without simply being a means of getting a cheap laugh or just being used “just because,” I can more than live with it.
You write characters to be realistic for their character. You also don’t shy away from flawed characters. I’m sure there are times when you can think of word/phrase substitutions to keep in character without stepping on someone’s toes, but you shouldn’t worry or feel bad about it when you don’t can’t. You should consider Erik’s complaint similar to the complaints of people who want to claim that the word “ain’t” shouldn’t be used due to not being proper English by a character who wouldn’t use proper English.
As for Tropic Thunder, that is probably my favorite performance for Tom Cruise.
Ain’t, used correctly, is proper — indeed, upper class — English. Go read Anthony Trollope.
That would be an unfortunate family name for a woman, I’d say. Though there probably are worse.
Funny… my favorite Tom Cruise performance was his role in “Singing in the Rain”
Well, personally I find that Tom Cruise is good at playing varying degrees of despicable people and generally falls down when he tries to go very far outside that role. He can go a little out for short periods, or even be redemptive in the end and be ok, but I haven’t seen him do a good job of a generally non-jackass character.
His role in Tropic Thunder was not only a raging asshole, but also fantastically creepy. If you watch the extras, a director or producer or someone said that he improved some of that character and dialed it up a bit more on his own too.
Tom cruise wasn’t in tropic thunder, it was ben stiller,jack black(forgot the black guys name) and robert downy jr.
Tom Cruise played Les Grossman, studio executive on the filming of Tropic Thunder.
Indeed, and I didn’t recognize him at first either. I remembered hearing he was in the movie and it was maybe halfway through or more before I realized it was him.
Really, it’s stupid to get hurt over such things. See it to often now a days. It’s not janitor, it’s custodial engineer. It’s not lunch lady, it’s food preparation engineer. It’s not special ed, it’s special needs. All because people started insulting others with a term/word.
People will always find some new way to insult someone. Gotta get over it. It’s as bad as those who got upset with Avengers “He’s adopted” line. So what? It was not meant to offend real orphans. As the comment is not meant those who suffer from retardation.
If South Park has taught us anything, it’s that words often change meanings with time. Just look at “The F Word” episode.
I thought South Park’s educational contribution to offensiveness was more of a, “What, you thought THAT was offensive? Just a minute, let me show you something.”
I kinda’ loved their response to Isaac Hayes quitting after being upset about their Scientology episode. That was absolutely handled with all of the dignity and respect you would expect from South Park (i.e. as little as humanly possible).
Actually, I think that Hayes is the one casting aspersions by saying why he quit. Like his fan base will follow him into the wilderness just because. However, Trey and Parker handled it well, if I remember correctly.
But then I feel that Hubbard created the place for a tax reason.
Go back and watch the first episode of season 10 (The Return of Chef). That was absolutely a, “Screw you, this is comedy and if you want to get bent out of shape we could actually try to be offensive.” Not sure what Hayes did or didn’t say/do. I just remember seeing that episode and thinking it was kinda’ bizzarre and then looking it up and finding out that he’d quit due to the Scientology episode. I’m not saying their response was unwarranted, just that it seemed very much in character for the show and certainly didn’t seem particularly mature.
Side note – the reason I could tell you season and episode# is because I own the first 14 seasons on DVD, so I don’t dislike South Park, just don’t consider it particularly mature. Ever since watching Citizen Kane in college I’ve been very cognizant that “quality” and “degree I enjoy” aren’t necessarily related.
As for Scientology, I don’t think I can think of a single good thing to say about that organization, so no arguments there.
Yes, it was very much a “You had no problem with us making fun of everyone else, but then do this? Well let’s show you what we can do!” :p
I agree with Erik. But not to the same level. Me I’m the one who is viewed in light of the negative comment of that phrase. I don’t say it about myself, however the possibility for that stigmata is there when my symptoms are effectively presentable for all to see. (And they just sort of kicked in on a low level (re: worry about what others think of me)).
I will say that I’m more afraid of the umpteen thoughts of other people than I am off misapplied phrases in literature or movies when viewed in an appropriate context between the characters. But that’s just me.
And now I worry about needing a bigger boat because of the blogs on the water. ..
Remember the last time this happened in the archive comic “Loofahs”?
Well go look. You were there, after all.
Well, I did go and look after I posted the one word reply. So, I did refresh my memory of those replies. I have to wonder what that person would do in a movie theater setting.
Probably leaves a disappointed post-it note on the screen.
It’s generally easier to accept something negative toward one’s self than a loved one. Which is part of what gets irritating (to me personally) about political correctness.
I can accept crap from others, but I won’t have it about my friends and family.
Good comment, Erik, glad to see everyone who replied was totally respectful and understanding. I personally don’t think the phrase should always be taken offensively, but as I understand it is often used in a derogatory way and that people do take offense, as obvious by your comment, I make sure to restrict my own usage of it for fear that people will confuse my intentions with those who use the word negatively. Here I just assumed it was Pumpkin saying a stupid thing that kids say rather than Rusche going for insensitive-when-out-of-context movie-quote humor (which I am happy to see confirmed in his comment above). But thanks for representing the other side anyway, despite anyone who might think you should just keep quiet.
Also curious that Kat wouldn’t jump all over Pumpkin for the comment, or maybe her concerns over PC-behavior are limited to only one cause?
I was wondering about Kat’s lack of response too. With the conversational break being as Ashliii and Bubbles showed up, I’m not sure that we can take a lack of response from her to mean anything past a topic shift from that, though.
I could see Kat going either way about arguing against or not noticing, though.
It’s also possible that she’d be inclined to give Pumpkin a pass for direct behavior that would otherwise draw comment for… reasons (Creeper McCreeperston is creepy).
As for the actual substance of the debate–yes, I’d like to see that particular usage of the word ‘retard’ go out of use. That doesn’t mean, though, that I can’t recognize that it is used, that many folks use it without comprehending how hurtful it can be to some folks, and that some characters–even ones I like–occasionally do things that I would comment on if they were real people and I was friends with them.
I would be more offended if Rusche wrote teenagers who didn’t say stupid, offensive things without meaning to. Seems to be part of growing up, saying dumb shit and learning the consequences of such the hard way. Faggot, queer, fruit, beaner, spic, kike, dago, cheese-eating surrender monkey…. all words I have heard and a few I used myself in my early teens that I had been used around me growing up that it took real-life experiences to change my language. It was part of growing up to learn what learned vocabulary I needed to let go of. Heck, still doing this as an adult, as language continues it constant evolution.
If you really don’t want to see ‘full retard’ used in the comic, it is going to apparently take Pumpkin using ‘full retard’ around the wrong person, either having a confrontation, or even better gaining independent self-awareness, and then choosing not to use it. But simply not using ‘full retard’ in the comic again will not really advance what you would like to see, and that is less usage of the word ‘full retard’, it would simply be censorship.
P.S.- if anyone else has words that they used in the past that they learned to cut out, please add them. Thank you.
hooomy gods I’m going to skip the lengthy debate I attempted to read cause it shouldn’t be such a heavy debate.
As a writer, and someone who has to deal with discrimination and misrepresentation and stigma on a daily basis I look at it this way. Our writer here is NOT using that term in a ‘professional’ ‘public’ type of mentality. In example we could say, were he giving a …seminar on any given topic. Using the term Full Retard would be hugely hugely inappropriate.
However, what we see here is a person, writing for a human teenager, who is bound to be flawed and formed by the social constructs she is subjected to. As we see through the entire interaction between Pumpkin and Kat, they both have varied and different perspective on things that are, and are not acceptable.
Pumpkin, a young teen, who has probably seen Tropic Thunder and has probably shared a lot of lulz over it with her friends, would probably view that comment, in a social situation, as entirely reasonable and not a big deal. In private conversations I say things just as bad if not worse with my friends. (Because they understand my intent and meaning, and I’m not using it to genuinely represent anyone).
We don’t agree with the term. That’s totally fine, cool, and even understandable giving the stigma around retardation and other psychological issues. Even our writer very likely doesn’t think that term is overly appropriate in certain contexts outside of private humor. -However-. Pumpkin is not our writer, and our writer should be viewed as a medium for these characters, these characters are not to be perceived as an accurate representation of our writer.
Good characters are flawed, not just in major oh my god ways, but in subtle relatable ways that we would see in every day society. And I personally feel this is a fabulous example of it.
JK Rowling wrote Voldemort and a number of his ‘anti-muggle’ followers. Should we call her out for being a racist? What those characters did and said is absolutely abhorrent. So therefor she should never write those sorts of topics again?
Not at all.
That’s what builds things. That kind of conflict, or misunderstandings. It’s an extreme comparison, but carries the same sentiment.
Pumpkin said something that to you was offensive, and she as a person in the story, may be exposed as to why. That doesn’t mean our writer views things the same way.
An excellent reply. Now I wonder what Siskel & Ebert said about Tropic Thunder.
I wont lie XD I had no idea who you were referencing until I looked it up. I’m going to go watch some of their videos >3>
Uh oh…Bubbles does not look happy. This…this is a fundamental problem.
I feel reality bending.
And…wait…has…has Ashliii lost her duckface?? Oh. Oh, this is bad. This is very bad.
Naw, she’s just a frowny duck face now
No. No, it’s not just a frowny duck lipped face.
Looks like she just spotted the Beagle Boys in the money bin.
Bubbles is still not happy over your miscommentage. :D
You broke the comments again. Definitely not in the way I found that would do it.
That was a weird night, yes sir. I think the comments got as sleepy as I was.
You borkened him.
Hooray! Not my fault again!
Sorry, you’re right, Mr. Blue. I should’ve said Steve “borked” them. Clearly I wasn’t thinking clearly.
Dang, I can’t pull a spleen here without an adequate response. . .
Try pulling a splanch; that’ll do the trick, I’ll tell ya what.
NOT A GOLDEN GIRLS SPOOF!!!!!!!
Is Ashliii actually trying to pull the “Mckayla Not Impressed” face?
And is this normal best friend concern, or do I sense a deeper type of hurt in Bubbles’ eyes?
Bubbles may know something we don’t.
Dun dun dunnnnnn
I’m not seeing hurt, just concern. I think they’re both reading Katrina correctly and are wondering what the hell Pumpkin’s doing. Once they get the chance to talk to her alone, they’ll either be reassured that she’s just using Kat for cosplay power-up or be more worried. There’s a decent chance this talk could happen in Blind Guy’s hearing too, and I wonder what the results of that would be.
Or they are wondering why she is hanging with a much older gal than them.
I have seen kids knock on others for hanging around too much with older people.
Possibly Rusche’s comment has me interpreting their expressions as I expect rather than how he means, but to me that looks like “predator alarm” going off. Not a thinking she’s about to attack Pumpkin or anything, but noticing that she has the hots for her, which I can see setting off those sorts of alarms when seeing someone in their 20’s paying attention to a 15 year old friend.
very true. It could also be that.
I’m wondering though if her mother perceives this or she if is just concerned that hanging out with someone that is so angry with males may affect her development. Or a combination of the two.
And who drives so far just about every day.
On another note:
I really like how you have Pumpkin walking on the wall. It is such a “kid” thing to do, it really shows her youth (in age and spirit) in contrast to Kat. Kat is all serious and “grown up” while Pumpkin is carefree and silly.
I really like how you characterize your characters not only in what they say, but how they act, look and carry themselves. You have really capitalized on the comic format as a vehicle for literary and visual expression. :)
Keep up the Awesome!
(I think I want a button with that phrase, would be good to have in the classroom as well)
Truth. Also dig the “then the sisters moved out” line. It’s not all private rooms and squee when your sisters–or your friends–move away and get their own lives that may not include you. Pumpkin’s seeing that now.
So Launchpad and Bubbles look a bit put out. Were they not invited to today’s episode of horrible movie club and Pumpkin randomly stumbled upon them? Is she about to get an intervention from her friends AND her mom about the same thing?
I need more popcorn, stat!
I think they were just meeting and Pumpkin was introducing Kat to them.
A few things it’s taken me some time to notice in the details:
Maybe because it’s late, I thought that music note was a wisp of cigarette smoke and I was glancing back and forth between Pumpkin and Kat trying to figure out who was lighting up. SIlly me. Pumpkin’s use of the phrase “at convention.” I love it. It’s so English like “at hospital.” Bubbles still has the same neck…collar…thing, and apparently Ashliii really loves green athletic-style shirts.
Going back a day, did Bubbles lose her braces finally? Her profile pic didn’t have them. Plus, Rosemary has an awesomely thin gold laptop. But if they’re both out until six, what’s she doing all day? It might have been in the comments but it’s late and I’m tired.
…looking back two days, is it just me or does Tarra’s birthmark look different in her photo? It’s a solid circle at the size I can see it at.
I seem to recall Pumpkin using some other phrases that seemed a bit British a while ago. I took that as suggesting some British work of fiction was a favorite of hers and she’d picked up a few phrases.
It wouldn’t be odd for Bubbles to use a pre-braces picture on Facebook if she still has them (or maybe even go so far as to photoshop them out). It’s also been 6+ months, though.
Tarra’s birthmark doesn’t have the floating rouge look in that picture. They are all supposed to be old pictures though, so it’s just a question of when that happened and what it means (not just normal makeup since it sticks off the side of her face now).
She referred to Quinn as “love” back on Thanksgiving, if I remember right.
The Brits seem to love Florida as much as New York City.
She must be rushing through Georgia in search of Alden Brown.
I just figured out why Ashliii and Bubbles are so upset.
First rule of Horrible Movie Club, is you do not talk about Horrible Movie Club!
You’re breaking the first and second rules right now. D:<
BOOT TO THE HEAD.
… and to Mr Blue, who watched out for me, and brought me tea, I leave my entire, vast– BOOT TO THE HEAD.
Come… let the circle close at the feet of the master
Kat smileth. Everyone is in trouble.
That could be creepily grinning while butt staring as opposed to an actual smile. I mean, you don’t have to go so far as assume Katrina learned to smile or anything like that.
So, here’s Ashliii and cool-looking-punk/emo (maybe)-girl/other friend of pumpkin here who don’t seem to like Miss-Freckles-Face that much. I wonder if Kat get’s that a lot, that would be kinda sad. But I’m looking forward to this talk Momma B is gonna have with her.
Those little heads of Anise and Ellie are so adorable. Squee~
I like how pumpkin has evoled not only as a char but the way she is drawn compared to the frist page in the comic. On the frist page she looks andyrouns and maybe entering into the 6th grade.
I remember when we were all kinda’ surprised that “Pumpkin” was actually her given name and not a family nickname.
Shotgun Leela doesn’t look happy.
The time frame appears to be dusk. There is no way that phone has 85% battery left. Lol.
Lol auto corkboard XD
I just noticed that; hysterical…
Did bubbles have a growth spurt, or has she always been that tall?
Damn you Auto-Corkboard!!! :D
And I thought that it was a borken pinterest setting.
Honestly: Second thing I turned off on my phone was autocorrect!
(First was Bluetooth.)
Took me a while to find how though. But it really was the most useless and annoying thing I’ve ever experienced on a phone. And completely borken, obviously.
B O R K E N !!!!!!
hah, I’ve been using “borken” in my class so long now, my students don’t even comment anymore….. It’s an official classroom word now…
I do not own a smart phone and mostly don’t want one, except for humorous auto-corkboard moments.
I can’t help but notice Bubbles has almost the same skin tone and freckles as Kat. Sisters? Oh, that’d make for some awkwardness.
I used to MST3K movies with my friends too, back in the day. Glad to see it still being used as a verb. :D
Wait a sec..! Is this why Ellie has all those Mary Kate and Ashley movies?!
Love the looks on their faces in the last panel.
Everyone needs to vote Chris for top web comics.
You can vote once every 24 hours, but (oddly) the timer seems to reset at 6PM proper time (which some of you call Eastern Standard).
I plugged a link into my name in this post that gives you a voting link and tells you the current rank.
Wait…we’re back at the movies.
is it time for “Gump Wars 2: Attack of the Shrimp”?
Maybe Gump Trek: The Wrath of Dan?
Whoops, left out the 2 in that.
Maybe a clean break and watch License to Dwarf-Toss (a Hobbit Bond film)?
The Hobbittop, an electronic love affair of Halfling and human.
Wasn’t this month “Weekend at Bilbo’s”?
I think that was a couple months ago. We’re probably close to February at this point, so we should probably start making up new horrific crossovers of 80’s/90’s stuff and geek stuff.
Star Trek: The Undiscovered Goonie
Indiana Jones and the Labyrinth
Crouching Tiger, Dark Crystal
(Actually, Short Time + Labyrinth would be perfect, but Short Time  isn’t as well known)
“keep making up” not “start making up”
Curse you lack of an edit button…
Get Potter. A movie staring John Travolta, Danny DeVito and Daniel Radcliffe. Directed by Laverne DeFazio.
YES. On that vein, how about The Azkaban Redemption?
The one I left out as probably not the right vein for this comic was “Much Ado About Showgirls”
I totally forgot about Andy Dufrense.
The Skywalker Resumption: Fellowship of the Stars III
You both damaged my soul a little. Excellent work. Hm, Rusche hasn’t done anything with comic book movies, so how about…
Justice Space (Justice League + Office Space)
Iron Lady (Iron Man + The Iron Lady [a biography of British PM Margaret Thatcher])
Watchstick Men (Watchmen + Matchstick Men)
The Wicker X-man (The Wicker Man [original] and Cyclops from X-men)
Machine man comic, Wonder Woman TV show, Transformers cartoon.
Cr $p, I forgot where I was going.
Mr. Blue–with that combination?
“Kill All the Humans, Start With The Males, Roll Out!”
I get a feeling Pumpkins friends know what’s up with Kat.
How does one change the avatar they’re been given anyways?
Random avatar is based upon e-mail address first. If no e-mail address, then it’s based on provided name. Changing spacing and capitalization in provided name will change avatars (if you go back you can find a few comics where The Last Outlaw & Pat/Mr. Blue tested variations). I’m not sure if capitalization changes e-mail or not, but seems reasonably likely.
Past that, you can set a gravatar for the e-mail you post with so it’ll follow you here and any other sites that also use Gravatar (which is many/most).
Yeah, we’re crazy fans that
Oh! Thanks for the info :)
Not sure why, but I love the way you drew Pumpkin in the top right frame. You’ve been out doing yourself in terms of art quality recently.
My two cents on the “Full Retard” debate – I feel it’s ok for a character to say something offensive if it’s a part of their character and not the author venting his own hate speech through his medium. And besides, if I wanted a narrative full of perfect, PC characters , I would watch the Brady Bunch.
That panel caught my eye as well; a pensive moment for Pumpkin, perhaps…
This means that Pumpkin and Ashliii being at the remake for Star Wars was a Horrible Movie Club event.
There is something about Pumpkin’s head/face in panel 2 that I really like.
Uh-oh, Ashliii does not look happy lol.
I’m kind of wondering if the movie is Tropic Thunder II:Paradise in Thule, Greenland
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